Sir what Col says about POJK is absolutely correct. It will be a big liability for India if we acquire them. Not only that we need to feed them and one day they will show their true colour. Leave them
Very nice. Cold calculations and strategy is the way to look at the future- emotions have no place in statecraft. Remember, Kautilya was the first Indian who developed the art and science of statecraft.
Welcome Col. Ajay Raina .. to the PGurus channel!🙏🙏 We are waiting to hear more stories and demystification of many defence and strategy related knots!! Next time I think you should come with couple of J&K Maps of the terrain!! Thanks sir!!🙏🙏
Excellent session. Opinion emanating out of personal experience.AsI have been saying wherever whenever possible, DO NOT ever think of annexing POJ.POJ population is totally unreliable and of questionable allegiances and attitudes.More over that population will definitely will disrupt the already uncomfortable demographic situation. More over it will add to the population of the country ,requiring additional resources to satisfy the demand. Hope the politicians act judiciously. Thank You Col. Raina , and Sri Iyer.
Col Raina it was wonderful insight. Congratulations to PGurus for an excellent job. I am Waiting to discuss GILGIT Baltistan and Sharief’s return to pak on STRIVE tomorrow
Absolutely liked Col assessment and honest opinion. Very realistic , pragmatic and sobering for many people. People like him should be heard more often
Col sir, it was a pleasure and previlage...sree sir, Pl call on col sir regularly... He is absolutely correct in his point of view from global as well as Pakistan...
Amazing video Sree. The Colonel's grasp of the situation in J&K is very evident. Im sure he would do even better on the PGuru's Hindi chanel. Thank you for the unceasing work. You're Amazing Sree....
The modern day Jaichands are alive and well in India, US and all parts of the world. On the topic of Gharwapsi "kutte ki dumm kabhi seedhi nahi ho sakti". I agree with Colonel 100%.
We must utilise the great minds like patriot Ajay, Madhankumar, Gaurav Arya and so many ..... for the formulation of military strategies. I am sure they would be contributing silently and humbly. Hearing his talks, a lot of goose bumps. God bless these patriots
Siri I appreciate Respected Col. Raina’s remarkable assessment of India Pakistan border and consequences of occupation of POK on the state of Jammu and Kashmir and in the long run on Indian state. ❤
Col is a great analyst,we should not even consider to take back those POK areas where population is not considered favourable to India in the interest of peace .We don't need new headaches.
Great to hear Col Ajay Raina. I completely agree with him as far as taking back PoJK is concerned. Sort them out and make sure our J&K is completely safe. Our Govt needs to understand that they have no love for Bharat Mata. Thanks Sri for the enlightening discussion. 🙏🙏
Sir yesterday I was in chepauk for oak VS afg match !! Most of the supporters of Pakistan are young youth and they were soo vocal about their support to park and heard them say six maro Kashmir meh ghir na h !! And they were singing dil dil Pakistan !! So my question is how do they identify themselves ?? And who is putting these ideas in them !
Very right. POJK should be used only to bargain and to get some support from international community etc. But definitely not to get back the infected part to this country which will spread the infection to other parts of the country.
Very good account of the live happening in J & k . We never knew many things, he told us Kudos to p guru channel and sh Ayer ji for having such people and making it innovative and original
Wow.. one real no-nonsense presentation.. need more such ground-real scholars for PGurus.. one of the best.. (btw .. free suggestion!!.. if ur pup has cataract Pl. do surgery … it is unbelievable how he/she gets ecstatic after sight restoration.. ton of after-care though..we did..it works.. u know better Col. Sir. )
I just a Bangladeshi youtuber entering India through Tripura he was not alone 10 of them entered without visa and they just crossed the wired border and there where a cab waiting in Indian side and they were scared but not that scared . However I was scared to see the vigilance of our BSF.
Even if Pakistan loses control of POJK, and we take it out, we should create an act only for POJK, that would make them a UT, and their people should not be given Indian citizenship, but issued ID cards. And they would need army permission. We should also have an authority that monitors them continuously.
Col ajay is absolutely great because is more real than jokers like adhi achin and mos faujits who sucked up to r survive tire above a rank colonel. Love his down to earth and very real experiences as a dogra. These you tube geo political generals make you vomit which is a good therapy for intestines. And adhi achin type experts are like enema which is also good for the colon and large intestine. My neighbourhood has more stars and ashoka pillars, including a COAS on their shoulders than the northern and weatern command but almost all never utter much on their ezpeeiences even after winnng the tambola full house on Saturday. These people give us real sense of priorities for > col. even amo g the so called fighting arms. Fat pension, free rations sunsidied housing and hardly ever killing any enemy combating are their commen thread. But of course they are proud compared to the blood Sucking Bajwas and munits. Col dogta is genuine and real. God give him more fortitude and maybe make him col commandant of training for agniveers. He is inspirational.
Whatever Col. Raina said about Kashmiri Muslims not wanting KPs back in Kashmir is true. I’m a KP and I was in Srinagar few months ago. Muslims there were acting all nice to us but would always ask us if we had a house in Srinagar that we wanted to sell, that they could help me get a good deal. This shows their mentality. They want Hindus to come as a tourist only but not to live permanently. Most double faced hypocrites, no wonder why everyone else in J&K (Dogra Muslims and Hindus, Sikhs, Pahadis etc) and Ladakhi Muslims and Buddhists hates them! It’s also to do with the pathetic Kashmir Muslim politicians as well.
I fully concur with Col. Ajay Raina's take on POJK. it'll be our "aa bail mujhe maar" moment because that population is totally brainwashed with what the mulla / maulvi teach at the madrasas and preach in the mosques. Also, it'll dangerously alter the population mix in this already disturbed state.
In modern war no one can acquire a piece of land and digest it unless the people in the area welcome the change.Mighty America could not control Vietnam & it could not rule Afganistan even after 20 years. It had to run away in the midnight leaving Afganistan. Gaining the support of local population is very essential as we did in Bangladesh. Can we win it?
There was talk of converting LoC into IB by BJP and list that as part of the election menifesto in 2014. But they withdrew but the intention was to convert sure
I don't want government not to take pojk...thinkong of economics is not always...correct...truth is all muslim living over there... after seeing all nonsense by hamas still government thinks to take action.. their ghar wapsi is not solution because they will not do... if so many Muslim come in bharat than Hindu living in jammu kashmir life will be in danger....Modi should think about it once more... why to take risk
Excellent views. Fully agree that getting back PoJK as land part to clear the terror camps is Ok but the radicalised population is entirely another thing! It will essentially be Gazwa-E-Hind! In a real sense!
taking pojk does not imply taking people, only the territory. india should take pojk territory, "human free", without the people. as for the pojk people, they could be made to leave either horizontally or vertically.
Sriji, Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend the phrase ‘Free Palestine’? It means - Get out of the illegally Occupied Land, and conform to the UN Resolutions. Why is it so easy that we ask Pakistan to conform to the UN Resolutions while we are unable to ask the same adherence in the Israel / Palestinian issue?
Please understand that the Pakistani side people are all radicalised. This is not a romantic thing, to capture POJK and then what do you do with the radicalised people? Take every step carefully one at a time thinking more than once. The demographics will also change and then you know what happens in Muslim majority communities. First thing they do is drive away the minorities whoever it may be.
Country does not mean just a certain square kms of land. It also means people living there. If we take over pojk, we will not only be getting a certain land mass and also, the people, their beliefs, their economy etc. Pak has ruined their economy for last 7 decades. Now, if we take over, it means that the tax payers of india have to bear their burden. And these people, in any case, will continue to follow diktats of their communal leaders and pose a risk for national security.
As soon as Sree gets an opportunity to dive into reporting on US affairs, he dives right in 😀. May not be directly germane to the conversation, but he goes right in.
I feel reclaiming POJK could be big trouble as the Muslims of that region getting attached to BHARAT can be seen as sure receipe for buying trouble. As it is the Muslims within Bharat are so Harami engaging in anti Bharat activities all the time.
Coln Raina narrated very effectively, wonderful contain . Raina ji may please be invited often . Jai Hind
Great Great information by Col Saab .
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Maharatis Rainaji + Dushyantji+ Shankarji = are all excellent personalities & they hold very radical & independent original thinking.
Sir what Col says about POJK is absolutely correct. It will be a big liability for India if we acquire them. Not only that we need to feed them and one day they will show their true colour. Leave them
Agree
Too risky/dangerous. The protests, etc in Pojk could be staged by ISI&co to get large numbers of Pak supporters/terrorists into Indian communities.
It is always a pleasure to hear Col Ajay Raina 🙏. He should do more such sessions, very informative, I must say.
Very nice. Cold calculations and strategy is the way to look at the future- emotions have no place in statecraft. Remember, Kautilya was the first Indian who developed the art and science of statecraft.
Welcome Col. Ajay Raina .. to the PGurus channel!🙏🙏
We are waiting to hear more stories and demystification of many defence and strategy related knots!!
Next time I think you should come with couple of J&K Maps of the terrain!! Thanks sir!!🙏🙏
Excellent session. Opinion emanating out of personal experience.AsI have been saying wherever whenever possible, DO NOT ever think of annexing POJ.POJ population is totally unreliable and of questionable allegiances and attitudes.More over that population will definitely will disrupt the already uncomfortable demographic situation. More over it will add to the population of the country ,requiring additional resources to satisfy the demand. Hope the politicians act judiciously. Thank You Col. Raina , and Sri Iyer.
Very rightly said. Why POJK, here in India we have blacksheeps irrespective of caste!
Col Raina it was wonderful insight. Congratulations to PGurus for an excellent job. I am Waiting to discuss GILGIT Baltistan and Sharief’s return to pak on STRIVE tomorrow
Col Ajay Raina Sir is great,
Col AJ is just amazing. His info and analysis are both excellent. Thanks for getting him.
the best video eye opener already shared with our family members Tku Col. Salute to you
Hats off to Ajay ji, fully support his views.
Absolutely liked Col assessment and honest opinion. Very realistic , pragmatic and sobering for many people. People like him should be heard more often
Raina sir..... Nice Talk
Col sir, it was a pleasure and previlage...sree sir, Pl call on col sir regularly... He is absolutely correct in his point of view from global as well as Pakistan...
Amazing video Sree. The Colonel's grasp of the situation in J&K is very evident. Im sure he would do even better on the PGuru's Hindi chanel. Thank you for the unceasing work. You're Amazing Sree....
We appreciate you Shriji and Colonel Raina👍
🙏 Thank you Colonel sir
Excellent indepth analysis of POJK situation. Hope GOI takes into consideration all the facts before taking any action. Thanks Col. Rainaji.
Dear Sree sir, it's great to hear from Col Raina. His in depth knowledge about POJK is wonderful.!
Totally agree with Col. Ajay ji
This is insane, we didn't ask for 53 soldiers back after giving the 93000 thousand soldiers??? I am going mad..
Watch movie "1971". Actor -Manoj Bajpai
blunder
The modern day Jaichands are alive and well in India, US and all parts of the world. On the topic of Gharwapsi "kutte ki dumm kabhi seedhi nahi ho sakti". I agree with Colonel 100%.
We must utilise the great minds like patriot Ajay, Madhankumar, Gaurav Arya and so many ..... for the formulation of military strategies. I am sure they would be contributing silently and humbly. Hearing his talks, a lot of goose bumps. God bless these patriots
Col Ajay has made a valid point wrt POJK
Siri I appreciate Respected Col. Raina’s remarkable assessment of India Pakistan border and consequences of occupation of POK on the state of Jammu and Kashmir and in the long run on Indian state. ❤
Amazing discussion!
I totally agree with Col Raina is absolutely right 👍 most of us feel this way. PoK May add to the already radicalised fundamentalists ..
Namaskar Mahara. Thank you for your continued service to our Motherland. 🙏
He's absolutely right
Colonel has brought out real fact very beautifuly
Juat brilliant discussion
Just like Egypt and Jordan we need to close the borders. If possible. Or they should be kept on the other side.
Sri Sir, Karma does not need any address ,It will get back ,US has to face the ill karma that they had been doing from long back .
Sad truth sir you tell us . Thanks
30:00 Absolutely Sir! I'm in favour of taking back PoJK only IF it comes without population
would like listen again
Col is a great analyst,we should not even consider to take back those POK areas where population is not considered favourable to India in the interest of peace .We don't need new headaches.
Great work
Very interesting. Impressive coverage.
Great to hear Col Ajay Raina. I completely agree with him as far as taking back PoJK is concerned. Sort them out and make sure our J&K is completely safe. Our Govt needs to understand that they have no love for Bharat Mata. Thanks Sri for the enlightening discussion. 🙏🙏
Grt exposition Colonel...except for an F word at 1:02 on timeline...Heat of the moment, I understand🤷👍
Sir yesterday I was in chepauk for oak VS afg match !! Most of the supporters of Pakistan are young youth and they were soo vocal about their support to park and heard them say six maro Kashmir meh ghir na h !! And they were singing dil dil Pakistan !! So my question is how do they identify themselves ?? And who is putting these ideas in them !
Very right. POJK should be used only to bargain and to get some support from international community etc. But definitely not to get back the infected part to this country which will spread the infection to other parts of the country.
Col Raina is too good
Yes yes we have to think over everything in details before taking a NY decisive decision on pojk.
Because 2022on that time was ssy class on Rushi prabhakar guruge on that day
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Very good account of the live happening in J & k .
We never knew many things, he told us
Kudos to p guru channel and sh Ayer ji for having such people and making it innovative and original
27:47 Operation Randori Behak
Wow.. one real no-nonsense presentation.. need more such ground-real scholars for PGurus.. one of the best.. (btw .. free suggestion!!.. if ur pup has cataract Pl. do surgery … it is unbelievable how he/she gets ecstatic after sight restoration.. ton of after-care though..we did..it works.. u know better Col. Sir. )
Not Very Convincing.Why There Is So Much Of Uncertainties Even Aftr So Many Years To Our Own Sons Of The Soil???????
I just a Bangladeshi youtuber entering India through Tripura he was not alone 10 of them entered without visa and they just crossed the wired border and there where a cab waiting in Indian side and they were scared but not that scared . However I was scared to see the vigilance of our BSF.
@hulagukhan-we3fw is it somewhere in Meghalaya?
@hulagukhan-we3fw thank you good to know information.
Completely agree. We don’t need PoK but we can aid in their freedom. Rohingyas should be moved to PoK
Regarding Canada, our govt have useless in their job. Only recently after jaishankar some worthwhile movement have happened
Col Raina is absolutely right an Indian name, skin colour decide allegiance to Bharat
But every eny time Bharat ka G 20 samiti sucss on that time, because modi was Bharat on that every time possitv thoughts on that time sir 👍🇮🇳🙏
Even if Pakistan loses control of POJK, and we take it out, we should create an act only for POJK, that would make them a UT, and their people should not be given Indian citizenship, but issued ID cards. And they would need army permission. We should also have an authority that monitors them continuously.
Aadi ka channel mei mai Ajai ko suna...bahut gnyani ai...Pleased to have him as our guest..
ye dil maange mOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOre
Col. Raina is a gem of a person...he is a person who knows what is happening on the ground
I fully agree with Col.Raina. It is not a good idea of taking back POJK back to Indian union. It is really a liability for India.
Shree Iyear ji where is Major Madan Kumar.
Excellent analysis by Col. sahab we really need people like him with such clear thought….
Col ajay is absolutely great because is more real than jokers like adhi achin and mos faujits who sucked up to r survive tire above a rank colonel.
Love his down to earth and very real experiences as a dogra.
These you tube geo political generals make you vomit which is a good therapy for intestines. And adhi achin type experts are like enema which is also good for the colon and large intestine.
My neighbourhood has more stars and ashoka pillars, including a COAS on their shoulders than the northern and weatern command but almost all never utter much on their ezpeeiences even after winnng the tambola full house on Saturday.
These people give us real sense of priorities for > col. even amo g the so called fighting arms.
Fat pension, free rations sunsidied housing and hardly ever killing any enemy combating are their commen thread.
But of course they are proud compared to the blood Sucking Bajwas and munits.
Col dogta is genuine and real.
God give him more fortitude and maybe make him col commandant of training for agniveers.
He is inspirational.
Being resident of Loc and col himself why don't he share his wonderful point with GOI
Whatever Col. Raina said about Kashmiri Muslims not wanting KPs back in Kashmir is true. I’m a KP and I was in Srinagar few months ago. Muslims there were acting all nice to us but would always ask us if we had a house in Srinagar that we wanted to sell, that they could help me get a good deal. This shows their mentality. They want Hindus to come as a tourist only but not to live permanently. Most double faced hypocrites, no wonder why everyone else in J&K (Dogra Muslims and Hindus, Sikhs, Pahadis etc) and Ladakhi Muslims and Buddhists hates them! It’s also to do with the pathetic Kashmir Muslim politicians as well.
They would have made tunnels across border covered and camaflouged on Indian side easily.
Very good vlog
Thank you 😊
GB yes. India must get it
It's जाग्रत (jagrata) not जागृत (jagruta) . Jagrata means the call to awaken whereas jagruta means already awakened.
So sorry to know about the Shimla’s accord! And 53 of our prisoners of war left unspoken in the hands of Pakistan!
Long range drones flying high in the sky 24 hours a day should be able to locate infiltrators even during Harsh Winters.
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One thing you missed out Colo Tamil people and Kerala people are Tamils only they just divided and Malayalam is mixture of Tamil and Sanskrit
I fully concur with Col. Ajay Raina's take on POJK. it'll be our "aa bail mujhe maar" moment because that population is totally brainwashed with what the mulla / maulvi teach at the madrasas and preach in the mosques. Also, it'll dangerously alter the population mix in this already disturbed state.
Well said sir Raina we don’t need jihadis with our land
In modern war no one can acquire a piece of land and digest it unless the people in the area welcome the change.Mighty America could not control Vietnam & it could not rule Afganistan even after 20 years. It had to run away in the midnight leaving Afganistan. Gaining the support of local population is very essential as we did in Bangladesh. Can we win it?
Sir PO jK is ok we don't need but what about GB?
Most of protests happened or happening in this country the participants don't know why, what😊
What is Father's good name.?Was his father Dy.Secretary in Civil Secretariat J &K.
Pok is a liability to India
There was talk of converting LoC into IB by BJP and list that as part of the election menifesto in 2014. But they withdrew but the intention was to convert sure
Can I reach you sir whenever will be in jammu ?
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Conversation . 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I don't want government not to take pojk...thinkong of economics is not always...correct...truth is all muslim living over there...
after seeing all nonsense by hamas still government thinks to take action..
their ghar wapsi is not solution because they will not do...
if so many Muslim come in bharat than Hindu living in jammu kashmir life will be in danger....Modi should think about it once more...
why to take risk
We want the POK back without the ‘M’s.
We can take POJK but without Suwars in it...
Excellent views. Fully agree that getting back PoJK as land part to clear the terror camps is Ok but the radicalised population is entirely another thing! It will essentially be Gazwa-E-Hind! In a real sense!
taking pojk does not imply taking people, only the territory. india should take pojk territory, "human free", without the people. as for the pojk people, they could be made to leave either horizontally or vertically.
Without shuddhikaran it's totally waste
Bharat Akhand ho
Bharat mein soovar kam hain kya? ki POJK ke aur soovar le?
Agree, taking in the radicalized population of POK is not worth it.
Deradicalise - give work permits only NO CITIZENSHIP
Sriji, Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend the phrase ‘Free Palestine’? It means - Get out of the illegally Occupied Land, and conform to the UN Resolutions.
Why is it so easy that we ask Pakistan to conform to the UN Resolutions while we are unable to ask the same adherence in the Israel / Palestinian issue?
Please understand that the Pakistani side people are all radicalised. This is not a romantic thing, to capture POJK and then what do you do with the radicalised people? Take every step carefully one at a time thinking more than once. The demographics will also change and then you know what happens in Muslim majority communities. First thing they do is drive away the minorities whoever it may be.
Country does not mean just a certain square kms of land. It also means people living there. If we take over pojk, we will not only be getting a certain land mass and also, the people, their beliefs, their economy etc. Pak has ruined their economy for last 7 decades. Now, if we take over, it means that the tax payers of india have to bear their burden. And these people, in any case, will continue to follow diktats of their communal leaders and pose a risk for national security.
As soon as Sree gets an opportunity to dive into reporting on US affairs, he dives right in 😀. May not be directly germane to the conversation, but he goes right in.
I feel reclaiming POJK could be big trouble as the Muslims of that region getting attached to BHARAT can be seen as sure receipe for buying trouble. As it is the Muslims within Bharat are so Harami engaging in anti Bharat activities all the time.
Ter m a. A ki
Good bad? It is ours right? Or is it not? What is ours don't we take it back?